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		<title>The Relationship Between Math and Programming Logic</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[Many of the concepts that you learn in mathematics can apply to computer science and even philosophy and semantics. Now granted, if you actually write a computer program, you probably won't be using much if any applied mathematics. In fact, you probably won't be using much computer science to simply write a program (particularly a simple one at that). [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Today&#8217;s post is a guest-post by Barbara Jolie. I think you will find it interesting and inspiring. I did. It fits in well with the Math Mojo philosophy:</p>
<p>This post is for all you math gurus out there who really love your field of study but are having trouble finding a practical place for that love in the modern job market (which, granted, shouldn&#8217;t be that hard in the first place in less you, say, strictly studied chaos theory and refuse to work on anything else … even then). The most marketable and out-branching aspect of your mathematical expertise is probably so embedded into your brain that it&#8217;s really just an extension of who you are: your logic.</p>
<p>Essentially, mathematics is a formal codification of logic. Using high levels of problem solving for mathematics involves a great deal of abstraction. In topology, you will be abstracting shape from numbers, and in algebra, you are dealing with structure. Many people don&#8217;t see math in this way, but this has to do more with their own shallow grasp of the study, understanding primarily arithmetic and not much else.</p>
<p>This is how many of the concepts that you learn in mathematics can apply to computer science and even philosophy and semantics. Now granted, if you actually write a computer program, you probably won&#8217;t be using much if any applied mathematics. In fact, you probably won&#8217;t be using much computer science to simply write a program (particularly a simple one at that).</p>
<p>It&#8217;s only once you begin attempting to solve especially difficult programming problems that your mathematical mindset really begins to bloom. As you go further into the specifics of a program and try to flesh it out, you will be using lower levels of abstraction. These lower levels will begin to reveal the values behind the programming and the significance of what their variation represents.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not definitively calling computer science a subset of math, but the two are definitely related. And having a flexible mind that can give shape to dynamic abstract concepts and problems is a must for both fields of study. In this same vein of thought, you can also reason that having that mental perspicacity could easily lend itself to the sciences and even language. After all, what is language but a series of abstractions arranged to represent a bigger &#8220;problem,&#8221; or meaning. The only difference is that, while computer science and mathematics are interpreted by a strict and robust system, the interpretation of language is left to the whims of any nitwit with ears or eyes.</p>
<p>So, in the spirit of this post, please make ever attempt you can to branch out your mathematical mind to new levels of abstraction. Seek out relationships between the field of study you love and other topics you might find interesting. Who knows, you may create a whole new career from it.</p>
<p>This guest post is contributed by Barbara Jolie, who writes for <a href="http://www.onlineclasses.org/" target="blank">online classes</a>.  She welcomes your comments at her email Id: barbara.jolie876@gmail.com.</p>
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		<title>Hintikka&#8217;s Paradox</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jul 2008 02:05:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve got lots more to post about bases, but right now I&#8217;m faced with a paradox &#8211; Hintikka&#8217;s Paradox, to be precise. </p> <p>Hintikka&#8217;s Paradox comes from Deontic Logic, a form of Modal Logic. I first read about it in Raymond Smullyan&#8217;s &#8220;Alice in Puzzleland&#8217; (a brilliant book about logic, and Alice in Wonderland, that is [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve got lots more to post about bases, but right now I&#8217;m faced with a paradox &#8211; Hintikka&#8217;s Paradox, to be precise. </p>
<p>Hintikka&#8217;s Paradox comes from Deontic Logic, a form of Modal Logic. I first read about it in Raymond Smullyan&#8217;s &#8220;Alice in Puzzleland&#8217; (a brilliant book about logic, and Alice in Wonderland, that is worth looking into.)</p>
<p>In the introduction to &#8220;&#8230; Puzzleland,&#8221; Smullyan describes Hintikaka&#8217;s Paradox this way:</p>
<blockquote><p>&#8220;Is it proper to call morally wrong something a person cannot do? Hintikka has a notorious arguent designed to show it is wrong to try to do something impossible. There is now a large literature on this strange question&#8230;&#8221;</p></blockquote>
<p>I&#8217;ve yet to encounter much of that literature, and boy, I have looked. I probably wouldn&#8217;t have understood most of it, anyway. </p>
<p>But it boils down to this, Hintikka&#8217;s Paradox implies that, <strong><em>&#8220;What is not possible is positively forbidden.&#8221; </em></strong></p>
<p>It&#8217;s important not to approach this from a &#8220;common sense&#8221; frame of mind. Common sense is usually neither, and is often a disadvantage when approaching counter-intuitive material. So try to keep an open mind. </p>
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<p>As far as I can tell, the logic of the argument goes something like this:</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><em>What cannot be done without something wrong being done, would itself be wrong to do. </em></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><em>(1) To do something that cannot be done without something wrong being done would itself be wrong. But (2) what cannot be done at all cannot be done either with or without something wrong being done.</em></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span><em> </em></span><em>So, if x is impossible and y is wrong, I can neither do both x and y, nor do x but not y. </em></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><em>But, (by 1) if y is wrong and doing x but not y is impossible, it is wrong to do x. “</em></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><em>Hence (3) if it is impossible to do x, it is wrong to do it.” </em></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">From &#8211; <em>Encyclopedia of Philosophy, Vol. 4, Ppg 509-514</em></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">OK, I can follow the argument. </p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Here&#8217;s my question &#8211; Why do they have to addend &#8216;y&#8217; to the argument to make the point? I mean, to me, in a &#8220;common sense&#8221;  way (always wrong to do), I would think* that I could just as equally say, &#8220;If x is impossible and y is not wrong, I can neither do both x and y, nor do x but not y. The &#8220;But, (by 1) part is not not applicable, thus the conclusion of above (<em>&#8220;if it is impossible to do x, it is wrong to do it”</em> ) cannot be drawn.</p>
<p class="MsoNormal">In my simple mind, it seems as though they are throwing in a red-herring (something that is not logical, but appears so, in order to muddle the argument). Sort of like saying, &#8220;If Joe is a guy, and Max is a communist spy, then Joe and Max cannot both be &#8220;good guys.&#8221; But if Max is a communist spy, and Joe existing without Max is impossible, then Joe must be a communist spy.&#8221;</p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Of course I am aware that my comparison is wrong. I just don&#8217;t understand (yet) why it is wrong. My not understanding is due to my incompetence, I know, and not to any flaw in Hintikka&#8217;s logic. I&#8217;d just love to be able to understand the logic. </p>
<p class="MsoNormal">The reason for my interest in this paradox, is that if I can understand it better, I think I can use it for a philosophical quandary I am in. It relates to politics. (See kids, I am always trying to use math or logic to get more meaning out of life. Feel free to play along at home.)</p>
<p class="MsoNormal">I am not a logician. But if someone out there reading this is a logician, or understands the paradox, could you please explain it to me in a comment? Remember, neither I nor most of my readers are logicians, so take it easy on the jargon, <em>K</em>?</p>
<p class="MsoNormal">*By the way, whenever most people, including myself, use the phrase, &#8220;I would think,&#8221; or &#8220;You would think,&#8221; you can be fairly sure that they will follow it by saying something that is wrong to think. I&#8217;m probably guilty of it in thinking &#8220;y&#8221; is a red-herring.</p>
<p class="MsoNormal">If you have some mature, fermented thoughts on this, please let me know. Remember, I&#8217;m looking for clarity, not more common-sense muddling. If your not a logician, or something like it, please ask your logician uncle Raymond, or someone, and have him/her take a look at it. </p>
<p class="MsoNormal">All the best, </p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Brian</p>
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